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Gavros 12:17 Wed Nov 5
EU migrants to UK add billions to the economy, while non-EU migrants cost hundreds of billions
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Shows that UKIP are attacking the wrong type of immigration.....even though of course they cant say that publicly....
Immigrants who came to live in Britain from outside Europe cost the public purse nearly £120 billion over 17 years, a new report has shown.
The major academic study also found, however, that recent immigration from Europe – driven by the surge in arrivals from eastern European – gave the economy a £4.4 billion boost over the same period.
Experts from University College London also said native Britons made a negative contribution of £591 billion over the 17 years – because of the country’s massive deficit.
The report analysed figures from 1995 to 2011, during most of which the Labour government was pursuing vigorously pro-immigration policies.
It found that migrants from outside the European Economic Area (EEA) made a negative contribution to the public purse of £117.9 billion because they consumed more in public expenditure – including NHS costs, welfare hand-outs and education – than they contributed in taxes.
The report, to be published in the Economic Journal, said the non-EEA group – largely made up of immigration from countries such as India, Pakistan and African Commonwealth countries – contributed less because families tended to have more children and lower employment rates.
"Immigrants from non-EEA countries ... contribute less than they receive,” the 50-page study concluded.
The native population made a negative contribution in 12 years during the period, running to £591 billion in total, as the British economy ran at a deficit.
Immigrants from within the EEA – which is the European Union plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein - took out more than they paid in during only seven of the 17 years.
It meant European migrants made an overall positive contribution to the British economy of £4.4 billion over the period.
Since 2000 European migrants were 43 per cent less likely than native Britons to receive benefits or tax credits, and 7 per cent less likely to live in social housing, the report said.
The authors – whose research has previously been criticised by the right of centre think-tank Civitas and by MigrationWatch UK, which campaigns for tighter immigration laws – emphasised their findings on the contribution of European migrants and gave less prominence to the findings on the costs of non-EEA immigration.
Professor Christian Dustmann, of UCL’s Centre for Research and Analysis of Migration, and a co-author of the report, said: “A key concern in the public debate on migration is whether immigrants contribute their fair share to the tax and welfare systems.
“Our new analysis draws a positive picture of the overall fiscal contribution made by recent immigrant cohorts, particularly of immigrants arriving from the EU.”
Sir Andrew Green, chairman of MigrationWatch, said the report confirmed the huge cost of immigration. "As for recent European migrants, even on the authors' own figures - which we dispute - their contribution to the Exchequer amounts to less than £1 a week per head of population," he said.
David Green, director of Civitas, said the new report suffered from a “shallow focus” which “misses out some vital costs”.
Between 1995 and 2011 the foreign-born population in the UK doubled from 3.5 million to about 7 million.
The non-EEA population grew from 2.8 million to 4.6 million during the period. Of those, in 2011, just over two million were not working, either because they were unemployed or for other reasons such as retirement or childcare.
At the same time the number of European immigrants in this country grew at a far higher rate, tripling from 723,000 to 2.3 million.
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riosleftsock
12:23 Wed Nov 5
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"Between 1995 and 2011 the foreign-born population in the UK doubled from 3.5 million to about 7 million.
The non-EEA population grew from 2.8 million to 4.6 million during the period. Of those, in 2011, just over two million were not working, either because they were unemployed or for other reasons such as retirement or childcare."
Why would any country import unemployed people?
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13 Brentford Rd
1:11 Wed Nov 5
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This is bullshit propaganda.
The jobs should be being done by Brits in the first place, same amount of tax revenue whoever does the work but then we are not paying for lazy unqualified Brits to sit on their arses so we would better off and ensuring our citizens are employable!
Also this report does not take into account the use of the NHS etc... by Europeans living here.
Then if you balance it out immigration overall from everywhere equates to us braking even without taking into account the cost of them using the NHS, the overcrowding, the loss of our culture, the scramble and rising cost of housing and the cost of British unemployment due to all these people coming here willing to work for peanuts pricing our own out of jobs.
IMHO the only ones to benefit are the corporates who get cheap and plentiful labour and tax breaks.
Overall it's a net loss.
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WHOicidal Maniac
1:17 Wed Nov 5
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13 Brentford Rd 1:11 Wed Nov 5
"the loss of our culture, "
What culture ?
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Gavros
1:22 Wed Nov 5
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13BR, the Economic Journal is the number one journal of economics in the world. Only top quality economic research gets into it. Its peer reviewed by all the top universities, of which UCL is one. To call it propaganda is ridiculous.
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WHOicidal Maniac
1:23 Wed Nov 5
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Gavros 1:22 Wed Nov 5
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goose
1:24 Wed Nov 5
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look how great our culture is now thanks to Labour and their "multi-cultural" approach.
imagine life without
chicken shops
jerk chicken
knife crime
gun crime
rap music
halal meat
mosques
tower hamlets
rotherham
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13 Brentford Rd
1:24 Wed Nov 5
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The figures are what they are Gavros, immigration per se does not make us money and if anything it costs us more than we make.
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Gavros
1:29 Wed Nov 5
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This is a paper about the economic costs/ benefits of migration. There are 'soft' costs and benefits too, but the underlying point is that anyone making an economic argument against free movement of people within Europe, specifically with regard the UK, is talking bollocks.
The other point is that non-EU immigration, which went through the roof under Labour, has cost the country over £100 billion. Nearly half of the non-EU cohort doesnt work. Its frankly an outrage, but I guess most of us knew this already.
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Gavros
1:29 Wed Nov 5
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This is a paper about the economic costs/ benefits of migration. There are 'soft' costs and benefits too, but the underlying point is that anyone making an economic argument against free movement of people within Europe, specifically with regard the UK, is talking bollocks.
The other point is that non-EU immigration, which went through the roof under Labour, has cost the country over £100 billion. Nearly half of the non-EU cohort doesnt work. Its frankly an outrage, but I guess most of us knew this already.
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Scraper
1:33 Wed Nov 5
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Immigration laws should be based on religion, not geography.
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Hani
1:35 Wed Nov 5
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The problem is we measure everything by money and that does not necessarily equate to happiness of the nation. Are people really happy about Roma,Polish high streets and Muslims. I would say no. The gap between rich and poor continues to grow. And the poor are often competing with these migrants for jobs and housing.
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alphaharps
1:39 Wed Nov 5
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says Jewish 13BR
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Hammer and Pickle
1:42 Wed Nov 5
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Don't know about the Roma and the Muslims, but the problem with the Poles in the UK is hardly the high streets, much more that they are often over-qualified, motivated and therefore highly productive. It sticks in people's crow.
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13 Brentford Rd
1:42 Wed Nov 5
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Pardon?
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Cony Tottee
1:46 Wed Nov 5
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Considering the main parties want to remove the lowest earners from taxation, how does important lots of cheap foreign labour improve the economy when those workers are immediately entitled to the NHS, school places for their children etc etc?
Wouldn't it make more sense to get people who are already here into work before importing more people in?
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Cony Tottee
1:46 Wed Nov 5
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*importing not important*
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Hani
1:49 Wed Nov 5
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Hammer and Pickle 1:42 Wed Nov 5
The Polish on the whole are a good lot but they do stick with their own and I know quite a few Polish gangsters that have done very well out of our soft sentences and soft approach to drug dealing. Even basic min wage retail jobs the English are in competition with the Polish over.
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Scraper
2:03 Wed Nov 5
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Scandies are awright though Hani, ey? Common heritage and that.
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Hammer and Pickle
2:14 Wed Nov 5
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But Hani mate, a certain degree of crime is inevitable and competition is natural, as is sticking together. The real threat they pose is not so much that they breed, they nurture and encourage their children to achieve at school and in professional life.
Most of my mates at school left with a few O-levels and CSEs. I was the only kid in my class who went on to uni. Makes you wanna spit.
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alphaharps
2:15 Wed Nov 5
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i dont think Jews should disparage immigration
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